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Suite of Test tools
#1

Hi,

I'm throwing this one out there for discussion.

Is there a need for a simple set of test tools when trying to debug.

On the whole, the project is very simple and for all intents it should work day one, but we all know that "murphy" comes into the equation.
The reliability of various components sourced on EBay at times leads to hours of frustration and also workman ship.

I finally have my TX and RX boards operational and have just finished off the WD unit as the WD seemed to be a no brainer. I was surprised that I got all my connections to the TFT unit the right way round first time.

Alas, this effort was to come undone, when no data was being received on the WD unit (Werk I love the display, it was clear to see and understand Smile

I wish I had kept that dual trace HP CRO I gave away many years ago, so, having acquired an SDR (software defined radio) I started to analyse the 433Mhz, to say I could see the output from the TX unit but no output from the RX unit (yes relay set to 1).

Having had to replace the TX module in the earlier days with the TX board, I suspected the same item (sourced from the same company) was at fault. "Murphy" really played havoc with me, as the replacement unit gave no output.

Last night , with multimeter in hand I went tracing (good practice), maybe my soldering was at fault, it wasn't soldering, also I had TX Led blinking. Well I found my issue and I was "missing" connectivity from the Drain of the T2 (2N7000) to pin3 of the TX connector, yet I had conductivity from tT2 Drain to R3. It happens and so I made up a short jumper to resolve. Alas, still no significant blip at 433Mhz, (I do see a very short burst at 433.9000 (but this could be anything).

My next line of attack will be to look at making up some simple code to output some dummy test data from the RX unit, so that I have a "constant" test bed that I can refer to.

Werk, this is no reflection on the project as I have come to "learn" and appreciate the simplicity and value of all your hard effort. Even the upgrade to the latest software version was a pleasant experience.

But I think when adding in "radio" signals into a project, that there needs to be some quick simple test tools that can help guide the "novice" user out there that they are not going raving mad.
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#2

In the version 2 Werk has added three digits on the RX unit initialisation screen to indicate if the TX is transmitting. It is granular up to each channel (rain, wind and temperature). Also the green LED TX witnesses the transmission.
Though you might have a perfectly working TX but a defective RX it won't show you. However it's a very welcome feature in this new version.
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(03-04-2016, 23:37)grunge Wrote:  Werk, this is no reflection on the project as I have come to "learn" and appreciate the simplicity and value of all your hard effort. Even the upgrade to the latest software version was a pleasant experience.

But I think when adding in "radio" signals into a project, that there needs to be some quick simple test tools that can help guide the "novice" user out there that they are not going raving mad.

Hi grunge
You can be sure that I greatly appreciate all user comments and suggestions, including this one by you. This helps to improve the project.

Regarding a tool to test if the TX modules are transmitting, I think that one of the best solutions is use the SDR# software and one of those cheap radio/tv USB dongles. However, I agree that at least a simple Arduino sketch to make the TX module send some kind of data at a regular interval, could be very useful for the task. It's easy to do, I'm just not including such utility, because most of the times there is no need to use such tool, and possibly most of the users don't have a radio/tv USB dongle (SDR# software is free).

Using just a software tool on the TX and RX, without the help of any other device, can leads you to not knowing if the problem is with the transmitter or with the receiver (hope this not sounds confusing).

Anyway, include such utility is a thing to think about.
Thank you.

Rgds

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(04-04-2016, 01:30)zitoune Wrote:  ... Also the green LED TX witnesses the transmission.

Hi zitoune,

The question raised by grunge is pertinent, because in case the TX module is faulty, the TX Led still blinks (applies to the TX unit or RX unit) but no data is transmitted.

Glad to know that you liked the three digits code on the RX unit display at initialisation phase.
Thank you

Rgds

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(04-04-2016, 04:39)Werk_AG Wrote:  the TX Led still blinks (applies to the TX unit or RX unit) but no data is transmitted.

Yes yes you're right indeed! I remember testing the output of the transmitter to detect voltage spikes as I did not have a scope at that time. Very brief but still visible with a DMM.

Thx!
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